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Poster: AshesRising Date: Mar 20, 2008 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

Here's two:
"Investigating Altered States of Consciousness induced by
Lysergic Acid Diethylamide" [April 2007 - approved]
http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/science/projects5.html
or,
"LSD – assisted psychotherapy in persons suffering from anxiety associated with advanced-stage life threatening diseases." [Dec. 2007 - approved]
http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/events/news4.html

I don't mean to imply that they are looking for volunteers --- I have no clue -- just an informal poll.

--- AshesRising

This post was modified by AshesRising on 2008-03-21 03:41:53

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Mar 21, 2008 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

Good question, I'd have to think about it and know the details before hand. I would probably not but depending on circumstances you never know.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Mar 21, 2008 6:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

If you asked some mug out on the street that never heard of LSD, nor had any experience with it, and offered up some gin monies to go with it, they might take the ride. Here my friend, you're at the deep end of the pool, throwing steak to the sharks.

It's been nearly 30 years for me and I have no desire to repeat past history. I got on that bus way too many times and actually tired of the experience. I was from the school that believed huge discoveries awaited behind certain curtains in the mind, which could only be opened by altered reality. "Listenin' for the secret, searchin' for the sound..."

While accomplishing an expanded repertoire of visual and audio oriented experience, no such secrets or keys to the universe were ever revealed. I think it was partially the hype surrounding LSD and a little bit of the drug itself that suggested a revelation would be forthcoming under it's effects. Being an ardent student of Castaneda compelled me even further into this misplaced belief.

I wouldn't give up any of my life in exchange for another, but after living for so long with only brief glimpses of sobriety, I finally discovered that reality was a pleasant spot for a rest. Nevertheless, I still have an affinity for the belief that "Once in a while you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right."


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Poster: ganges Date: Mar 21, 2008 6:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

Up until LSD I never realized that there was anything beyond this state of consciousness...The first time I took it, it just blew everything away. I had such an overwhelming feeling of well-being, that there was a God and I could see him in every blade of grass... (George Harrison)

It's been more than 30 years for me and I agree with George, I was never the same again (I hope for the better) and I actually stopped taking it after the most intense experience,I feel it was a "blessing" or a "grace" for me and got me started on my "life".

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Poster: palealien Date: Mar 21, 2008 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

Absolutely. After and while I was in rehab many years ago I began to remember reading somewhere that once LSD was considered a viable tool in treating alcoholism. Upon further reflection I realized while I was tripping, alcohol always seemed to be not only ineffective but incredibly absurd.

It is also written here and there that Bill Wilson, the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, was experimenting with it as well.

From Wikipedia: "In the 1950s Wilson experimented with LSD in medically supervised experiments with Gerald Heard and Aldous Huxley. With Wilson's invitation his wife Lois, Father Dowling, and Nell Wing also participated in experimentation of this drug. Later Wilson wrote to Carl Jung, praising the results and recommending it as validation of Jung's spiritual experience. (The letter was not in fact sent as Jung had died.)[16]

In keeping with his interest in spirituality, he (Wilson) and other early leaders of a the movement also considered and experimented with other possible cures for alcoholism. These therapies included niacin (vitamin B3) and LSD as a means of inducing spiritual change."

So yeah, I'd be up for it. Better than any other treatment I have yet to encounter, but I still haven't found a lead to anyone who is actively pursuing this approach. Sign me up!

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Poster: waynecs Date: Mar 21, 2008 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

no.

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: Mar 21, 2008 2:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

Oh My God! AshesRising. How come your posts always seem to aim straight at the heart?
LSD is one of the reasons I first started posting in the forum, because I knew that here would be people who were 'experienced' and would perhaps be able to help me make sense of my thoughts and feelings, which I attributed to my ingestion of quantities of psychotropic drugs back in the mists of time. However, I soon realised that the 'trip' is purely subjective and though we can share experiences, we can never truly communicate our own 'feeling' of being in deep space.
Still, what I found here was way better and that is friendship, fraternity, compassion, humour and lots of good ol' Grateful Dead, my favourite pioneers of inner space exploration.
I wish Peter every success in his endeavours because sometimes I think that if not for LSD I would still be like Thomas Anderson in the Matrix, still imprisoned in that other reality.
I'm not expressing myself very well but I hope you get the gist?:~)

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Poster: Lou Psypher Date: Mar 21, 2008 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

I'm in! Where do we sign up?

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Poster: Fishead Date: Mar 21, 2008 9:05am
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already been there done that ...'Th-th-th-that's all folks!'

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Mar 20, 2008 8:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

as long as i could listen to the dead while i was high, absolutely.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Mar 21, 2008 11:04am
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Summer of Love, 1967 - PBS documentary

Joel Selvin: "The music changed just immediately. I cannot explain to you what it's like to be in a crowd of 5,000 people on LSD with the Grateful Dead, also on LSD, leading the crowd through a series of improvisations. Before that, rock and roll songs were three minutes, period, paragraph, we're out of here."

Peter Coyote: "It was such an exciting, heady time to find out that under the official reality there was this seething turmoil of young people, learning new music, new thoughts, new ideas, new literature, new poetry, new ways of being."

Narrator: "This 'turmoil of young people' was, in part, due to sheer numbers. Never before had so many Americans been under 25. There were over 90 million of them, nearly half the population. And many were disillusioned with the world around them. The president many had found inspiring had been assassinated barely three years earlier. War in Vietnam was killing a hundred American soldiers every week. Month after month dozens of young men were being drafted into the army. And the struggle for civil rights at home had grown increasingly militant. Those gathered in the park that sunny January day sought a different world."

"They were derided by some as junior grade hipsters, "hippies" for short. Many began experimenting with communal living in the large Victorian houses of the Haight, and visions of a utopian society began taking shape, enhanced by a mind-altering new drug called LSD, or acid."

Yup, sure was the good-ole-days. Many of us experimented w/ LSD. Everyone around us was experimenting. So did I. My 1st trip was quite the challenge. It had moments of hard-to-handle. I tripped again soon - this time not telling anyone. Once I handled that (which I did very well) it was never a problem. Eventually I did abuse it, having taken it several hundred times. I even used it to keep awake while driving overnight on some epic travels. What was I thinking?

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Poster: Hellion Date: Mar 21, 2008 11:28am
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I'd be first in line! Sign me up... hook me up...

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Poster: patourkid Date: Mar 20, 2008 9:50pm
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OH HELL NO!!!! Not just no , HELL NO. My grip on reality is tenuous at best. "it's not a matter of passing or failing the acid test ,some folks just get a different score than others" LSD certainly shaped who I am today and how I view the world but I wouldn't do a single hit for a MILLION dollars, hell ten million for that matter. You can't buy back reality....."cryin won't help ya and prayin won't do ya no good" I tried. Took me many years and I still find myself in deep space sometimes. My days of expansion are over!!!

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Mar 20, 2008 10:42pm
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as much fun as it is to temporarily escape reality, we do need to have a reality to come back to.

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Poster: airgarcia416 Date: Mar 21, 2008 12:36pm
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Ashes, long time no see. Life has gotten so chaotic I have not been able to give time to this wonderful community.

As for LSD experimentation in a clinical setting; no way no how. No issue at all w/ tripping again; though it has been probably 10 years or so since I last enjoyed the sacrament. If given the right situation with the right people I would gladly enjoy as dosey doh. LSD was always about the right place and the right time.

Has anyone experimented w/ Salvia? It has piqued my interest many times.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Mar 21, 2008 1:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

airgarcia416: Incredible! - you and "ned the head" show up in my posts during the same week! This is certainly a "Good Friday" for me --- I hope you show up and share your thoughts on the GROK soon.

Later,
--- AshesRising

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 21, 2008 4:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An informal poll: would you volunteeer for an LSD research projects?

Hey friend--very personally, I feel I am "lit up enough" via the various meds I am req'd to take (though of course, milder by defn), so I'd have to say "pass" just because I couldn't handle anything more...

But I can see the beauty in a spider's web any day. Most beautiful thing in the world, and they don't have to be on anything to produce it...

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Poster: patourkid Date: Mar 21, 2008 1:04pm
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Salvia is like getting strapped onto the nose of a bottle rocket and blasted off ...in your sleep. there is no "getting" off your just off and don't know how you got there.....BE CAREFUL with that stuff!!!